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Extremely really cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek article, that I really did not make clear ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I included that point due to the fact that when I had to find a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that had not been sludged up really badly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to talk about a couple of issues of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is much better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the exact same automobile.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines after that. Let's talk concerning engine and in fact just to define that the version years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you recognize, I indicate, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you recognize, for a variation of a Chevy van has been around because, you understand, around that time also. Because 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a lot of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with impact to these engines, due to the fact that they really did not have adequate threading in the spark plug, which created problems.
So if you're acquiring anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug concerns. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leakage, they'll create coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold typically you need to replace the entire thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, since I'm discussing problems, it's an extra sophisticated engine. Expenses cam, so you're obtaining more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex layout with press poles.
They're simply actually quite excellent, sturdy, solid engines. You recognize, being a van, certainly, you know, doing any kind of solution on them is much more complicated since you've got to get rid of that cover and obtain into servicing in strange means. Points like spark plugs last a terrible lengthy time, so they do not require to be changed extremely commonly.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not consider if we have actually ever before done a Chevy, however Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a long period of time, like back prior to the 2000 model year.
So, you understand, that's still offered. I would certainly not suggest a diesel unless you're hauling remarkably hefty tons. Diesels need to be functioned. That's actually the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm simply going to say a plumber and you have actually obtained like a lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would be a truly good usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they appear to have much less troubles in vans than they do in the vehicles. Most likely due to the fact that they aren't functioned so hard, however when things happen, they're really pricey to take care of. We've got a great deal of videos and details about diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually require to assume twice regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will state, Chevy is pretty much restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply talking concerning kind of a directly, regular cargo van here. The diesel most definitely isn't the finest alternative. Take a look at your objective, your usage, exactly how much weight you're hauling which'll aid you make the choice. Mark: What regarding the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're rather much equivalent.
One point that we haven't chatted concerning here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what version, they're available ever before from half ton to one bunch chassis and actually a few of the exploded view vans are in fact much more durable, like, you know, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to provide the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less steering linkage entailed in a Chevy. So there are much less components to wear. They do a ball joints that break. Do Chevy's, however it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the guiding link is a lot less difficult, so there's less parts and less things to wear out.
The ride in a Ford is possibly a little extra vehicle like however I do not recognize if you 'd really ever before actually saw a difference between the 2. It seems like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What about brakes? Bernie: Brakes are practically the exact same, however I will claim that it appears like with Fords, the method they construct their brake calipers, that they often tend to need to be replaced virtually every time you do a brake work.
For one reason or another, they seem to last for one brake job. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be replaced. So I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to invest a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I suggest, the gliding doors were crap, you recognize, really severely built. Actually, I would certainly say that if you are even taking a look at something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks generally really took a jump ahead in high quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a whole lot of stuff where the brakes as an example would certainly not last very long in any way.
However if we're looking at the 2000 newer, I indicate, I 'd state they're both possibly virtually equivalent in top quality, fit and finish, you understand, some of the passenger vans, naturally we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. Yet I can't state that of them stands out to me a little bit greater than the other.
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