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Really really cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I didn't explain ... my negative In respond to spitfirebill: I added that point since when I needed to find a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that had not been sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to talk about a couple of issues of these vans, but I I'm plainly not going to come out and state one is much better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same automobile.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. Let's chat regarding engine and really simply to define that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I mean, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you know, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around given that, you know, around that time also. So we're not going to get back into, into the earlier stuff. Because 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more preferred and I would not really suggest a V6 engine.
You know, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with impact to these engines, because they really did not have enough threading in the ignition system, which created troubles. And often that would certainly take place when you may be in a 15 traveler bus rising a hillside with a tons of individuals and all of an unexpected boom, a stimulate plug bulges and you're stranded.
If you're acquiring anything from most likely 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug issues. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you have to change the entire thing.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing issues, it's a much more innovative engine. Overhead camera, so you're getting even more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with press poles.
They're simply actually respectable, long lasting, solid engines. You understand, being a van, of program, you know, doing any service on them is extra complicated due to the fact that you have actually got to get rid of that cover and enter maintenance in strange means. Points like stimulate plugs last a horrible long time, so they do not need to be replaced very often.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a long time, like means back before the 2000 design year.
So, you recognize, that's still readily available. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're transporting extremely heavy loads. Diesels need to be functioned. That's truly the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm just going to state a plumber and you have actually obtained like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually good usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have much less issues in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Possibly since they aren't worked so hard, however when points take place, they're truly expensive to repair. We have actually got a great deal of videos and details regarding diesels, specifically the Fords.
So you really need to reconsider obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for function, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the purpose that you're endeavouring to fulfill. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is pretty much restricted to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is a monstrous gas consuming engine.
However if you're, and once again, we're just discussing sort of a right, normal cargo van right here. The diesel definitely isn't the most effective alternative. Look at your purpose, your usage, just how much weight you're carrying which'll aid you decide. Mark: What concerning the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're basically equivalent.
One point that we have not spoken concerning here is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're readily available ever from half load to one ton chassis and in fact a few of the cutaway vans are really also a lot more durable, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
However typically the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be quite a lot equivalent. Mark: So let's talk concerning steering and suspension. Just how do they compare? Bernie: You know, I'm mosting likely to offer the side to Ford on this. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less steering linkage associated with a Chevy. There are much less components to wear out. They do a ball joints that break. So do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, but the, you recognize, the guiding affiliation is a lot less challenging, so there's much less parts and less products to break.
The adventure in a Ford is most likely a little bit a lot more truck like however I do not recognize if you 'd in fact ever really discovered a distinction in between both. It appears like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the exact same, but I will state that it appears like with Fords, the means they develop their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be changed virtually every time you do a brake task.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake task. And then a lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. So I believe on a Ford and you can anticipate to invest a bit more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back prior to the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly bad doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, actually severely developed. In fact, I would state that if you are also checking out something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans really and their vehicles generally actually took a leap ahead in high quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a lot of stuff where the brakes as an example would not last long at all.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I mean, I 'd claim they're both most likely rather much equivalent in high quality, fit and surface, you know, some of the guest vans, of course we'll have better consultations than the freight vans. But I can't state that a person of them stands out to me a bit even more than the various other.
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